In Conversation with Randy Ribay
| From time to time I find an author who just seems to click with the way I see the world. This happened when I first read After the Shot Drops by Randy Ribay. I began waiting for his next book. What a great wait. The Patron Saints of Nothing is an absolutely stunning book. As the President of ALAN for the 2019 workshop I was able to have Randy as one of the keynote speakers. He gave a brilliant talk about using critical literacy in the classroom. It is, perhaps, even more relevant today. I hope you take a minute or two to read through it. I was thrilled to have the opportunity to have a conversation with Randy. We talked about several interesting things including his new book Everything We Never Had. If it isn't on your radar, it needs to be. It is one of my favorite reads of the year. In addition, it turns out that Randy is a heck of a short story writer. Have you heard about this little collection of short stories called The Collectors? It is an amazing collection and Randy's story is fantastic. I hope you join us for a fun conversation. |  |
Summary of the Conversation
Steven and Randy discussed their experiences as writers and teachers, with a focus on the challenges and rewards of teaching critical literacy theory and writing about sensitive topics. They also discussed the importance of diverse representation in literature, the impact of their work, and their writing processes. Additionally, they shared their experiences with the publication of Randy's book in the Philippines and their appreciation for the work of various authors in the young adult genre.
Randy's Journey From Aerospace to Writing
Steven and Randy discussed Randy's journey as a writer. Randy shared that he didn't initially aspire to be a writer, but his love for stories and his experiences in college and teaching led him to pursue a career in writing. He mentioned his transition from engineering to English literature, and his subsequent teaching career, where he focused on middle school and high school English. Randy also highlighted the importance of diverse representation in literature, which inspired him to write his own stories. He started writing fiction in 2010, and his first book, "After the Shot Drops," was published in 2015.
Experiences as Writers and Teachers, Filipino Representation
Randy and Steven discussed their experiences as writers and teachers. Randy shared his journey of writing and getting rejected multiple times before finally securing a book deal with a small press. Steven, a former high school English teacher, expressed admiration for Randy's dedication and the challenges of writing. They also discussed the underrepresentation of Filipino writers in literature, with Randy noting that there are more in the middle-grade space. Steven suggested a blog post on Filipino writers and shared his experience of using Randy's popularity to secure other writers of color for a speaking event.
Discussing Critical Literacy in Challenging Times
Steven and Randy discussed the challenges of teaching critical literacy theory in the current climate. Steven, who has been teaching since 1978, expressed concern about the backlash against progressive ideas since the Covid-19 pandemic. Randy agreed, noting the fierce pushback against critical race theory and the lack of understanding among some people about its content. Both agreed that despite the challenges, it's still important to continue teaching critical literacy. Steven shared his past practice of requiring students to read diverse authors, including African American and Hispanic writers, and how this exposure helped students make connections to their own experiences.
Discussing Teaching Experiences and Perspectives
Randy and Steven discussed their experiences and perspectives on teaching, particularly in relation to sensitive topics. Randy, who has been out of the classroom for two years, suggested that he might have approached teaching differently now, possibly using softer language or subversive methods to convey the same messages. Steven, who has been teaching for 15 years, shared his frustration with the current teaching environment, feeling that he might not be providing the best guidance for his students. They also discussed the book "The Patron Saints of Nothing" by Tom Lin, which Steven found to be a "banging book" that effectively explored race, class, and gender issues.
Discussing the Drug War in the Philippines
Steven and Randy discussed Randy's book about the drug war in the Philippines. Randy shared his extensive research, including multiple trips to the Philippines, interviews with family and random people, and meetings with former activists and journalists. He emphasized his intention to portray the situation accurately and not just from an American perspective. Randy also mentioned the lack of significant backlash from the Filipino community, although he did note some quiet reactions. Steven appreciated the choice of Jay as a character, who is living in the States and has family in the Philippines, as it allowed for a nuanced portrayal of the situation.
Randy's Book Publication and Writing Journey
Randy discussed his experiences with the publication of his book in the Philippines, where he faced challenges due to limited support and distribution. Despite these obstacles, the book has gained popularity and is now taught in some colleges and high schools in the country. Randy also shared his transition from teaching to full-time writing, mentioning the impact of the pandemic and the birth of his son on his routine. Steven expressed interest in the historical significance of Randy's book and the impact it has had on young adult literature. The conversation concluded with a discussion on Randy's writing process, comparing his approach when he was teaching to his current method.
Exploring Writing Process and Influences
Randy discussed his writing routine and process. He shared that he typically writes early in the morning, before his teaching and parenting responsibilities took over. He explained that his writing process varies depending on the project, but often involves exploring a question or theme through fiction. For his book, "Patron Saints of Nothing," Randy used a Filipino American character to explore issues of injustice in the Philippines. He emphasized that his writing is a process of discovery, as he figures out the answers to his questions while writing. Randy also mentioned that his career in teaching influenced his writing, and he left teaching to focus more on writing.
Writing Processes and Techniques Discussion
Randy and Steven discussed their writing processes. Randy explained that his approach varies depending on the project, with some being more plot-driven and requiring more preparation and outlining. He also shared his method of taking notes in square brackets during drafting and revising as he goes. Randy's daily writing goal is a thousand words before and after lunch, although he doesn't always meet this. Steven found Randy's process interesting and compared it to academic work. Randy also mentioned that he always does a full edit and revision before sending his work to anyone else. The timing and number of people involved in reviewing his work depend on the project and its sensitivity.
Discussing Storytelling, Feedback, and Author Appreciation
Randy and Steven discussed the challenges of making a story with little plot engaging. Randy shared how he sought feedback from an author friend, Tracy Chi, to improve the story's readability and structure. They also discussed their shared appreciation for experimental formats and beautiful writing. Steven expressed interest in Jason Reynolds' early work, "When I Was the Greatest," and Randy shared his positive experience with the book, highlighting its nuanced take on masculinity. Both agreed on the importance of expanding the author pool in the young adult genre.
Discussing Writing Authors and Emerging Trends
Steven and Randy discussed their experiences with authors and the development of the field of writing. Steven shared his interactions with Matt de la Pena and Jackie, who recommended authors Jason Reynolds and Varian Johnson. He also mentioned his introduction of Varian Johnson at an Allen workshop and his subsequent meeting with Jason Reynolds. Randy agreed with Steven's observations and added that there is an emerging trend among writers to dismantle traditional notions of masculinity. Both expressed their appreciation for the work of authors like Jason Reynolds, Varian Johnson, Brendan Kylie, and Centner. They also shared their mutual admiration for Van Morrison's music.
Writers' Experiences and the Art of Writing
Steven and Randy discussed their experiences as writers and the impact of their work. Steven praised Randy's short story, "The White Savior Does Not Save," and Randy shared his satisfaction with the editing process and his love for the short story form. They also discussed the challenges and rewards of writing, with Randy expressing his interest in poetry and the importance of conciseness in both poetry and short stories. The conversation ended with Steven expressing his anticipation for future interactions with Randy.